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		<title>$8,000 tax credit- Guidelines with 14 weeks left</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: large;">I  have had 3 new pre-approvals from the weekend- All three of the clients were  looking forward to the <strong>$8,000  tax credit</strong>,  so today I will blog about the current status of the tax credit statue as well  as some highlights around this.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>The  $8,000 tax credit cannot be used as down  payment-</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Out  of these 3 buyers one was already pre-approved via an online lender at Quicken  Home Loans but after our 20 minute phone consultation he was not told that his  tax credit was not available as a down payment! I only hope the application  taker “forgot” to ask where the down payment was coming from but this should  have been apparent when his assets in the bank equaled less then 1% of his  overall purchase price- so no 3.5% which is a red flag proving that we have no  seasoned down.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">So  just to be clear- THE $8,000 TAX CREDIT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR ANY PORTION OF THE  3.5% FHA REQUIRED DOWN PAYMENT.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>What  if I buy a duplex? </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">You  can only get 10% of purchase price or $8,000 max. So a $70,000 house you would  only earn $7,000 in credit. With a duplex you own half as an owner occupied and  the other half as an investment so depending on the price makes all the  difference- so a $160,000 duplex- half would be $80,000 and 10% of that is  $8,000 so you get maximum credit. A duplex under $160,000 would only get 10% of  half of the price.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Now  to fully disclose I am not a CPA and certain things could affect this answer but  if you ever have questions I refer all my accounting questions to the smartest  CPA in the County- John Caughell CPA at 360-573-9800 or <a title="mailto:johnc@golden-cpas.com" href="mailto:johnc@golden-cpas.com">johnc@golden-cpas.com</a> he is truly the best.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Timeline  to qualify- </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">So  as we go down one of the biggest unknowns to first time homebuyers we ask will  the $8,000 be extended another six to 12 months? Could it be possible to have it  increased? <strong>We have 14 weeks left  for the $8,000 tax benefit with the buyers required to be fully closed by Nov.  30<sup>th</sup>.</strong><sup>th</sup> and not just under contract.  I have a feeling that short sale offers will see less activity as a result of  this timeline and the fact that SO many of us have been burned by playing the  hurry up &amp; wait game while the servicing agents and banks fumble the ball  and make up new rules as they go.</span> That means funded and wired by Nov. 30</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>What  is Happening Today-</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The  two biggest housing trade groups- the 1.2 million-member National Association of  Realtors and the National Association of Home Builders- are spending the month  mounting unusually intense grass-roots lobbying campaigns to make case for  extending the credit, and maybe even expanding it. The effort is targeted first  at the districts of members of the house of the two tax writing committees-  House Ways and Means and Senate Finance- this is very strategic and could have  been beneficial if we had that support for the HVCC issues we are now dealing  with instead of a 1 page document that basically stated to suspend the HVCC  until further review.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Economic  “Ripple Effect” </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">According  to Economists at National Association of Realtors 300,000-350,000 additional  houses will be sold as a result of the tax credit. Each home is forecasted to  contribute $63,000 in downstream “ripple effect” elsewhere in the economy, they  say- sales of furnishings, appliances, lawnmowers, landscaping, renovation  materials, plus moving expenses.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">For  those who know me understand that I always say “<em>you always have to know  where the information came from”</em> so on this bullet point I realize  the number seems high but having $8,000 of free money and buying a home at the  bottom of the market seems to really make people feel better about spending.  Accurate or not I feel it is a benefit that may be one of the only Obama plans  that I have witnessed that worked without a flaw.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Path  Forward </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Bills  are already pending in both houses to extend the credit for another year. Some  have fantasized about the bill that Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Chairman of the  Senate Banking Committee is co-sponsoring with Georgia Republican Johnny Isakson  that would raise the tax credit to $15,000! Meanwhile, both the Realtors and  builders are pushing not only for extension but for the credit to cover ALL home  purchases in 2010. I forecast some sort of an extension but I would caution  spreading false hope and if we can capture the money for clients today that is  soon-certain and positive they receive the $8,000 credit.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The  MARKET</span></strong></span></p>
<div id="attachment_77" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-77" title="good-news-photo" src="http://billcblack.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/good-news-photo-150x150.jpg" alt="Pretty Good Day in the Market" width="150" height="150" /></span></strong></strong></span><p class="wp-caption-text">Pretty Good Day in the Market</p></div>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br />
Treasuries  and mortgages rallied today; </span></strong>see-saw back and forth  after the hammering treasuries and mortgages took on last Friday on the jump in  existing home sales in July and the strong rally in equities. Today the stock  market opened better following the 156 point jump in the DJIA Friday, but by  mid-afternoon the equity markets rolled over and ended unchanged on the  day.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Tomorrow  Treasury will auction $49B of 2 yr notes, beginning three days of new issuances  raising a total of $109B.</span></strong> Markets appear to be thinking demand for the new issuances will be strong as  they have been for the past two months. Demand for US Treasury debt remains firm  from indirect bidders (mainly foreign central banks). The 2 yr note usually does  see good demand as it fits well with banks&#8217; assets and liabilities. Banks are  hoarding cash these days while telling the media there is little loan demand.  Banks have the straight faced ability to paint the picture anyway they like.  There is scant loan demand because banks will only lend to those borrowers that  can get along without it.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-98" title="The speed of our loan process " src="http://billcblack.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/clarkson_face-150x150.jpg" alt="The speed of our loan process " width="150" height="150" /></strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>12  hours in Docs </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>12  hours in funding….. So let’s go have some fund! </strong></span></p>
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